Too much maths; not enough bridge?


At a recent club session at my club (open grade - the only one) the first two pairs in one section were:

One straight from the lessons who had just turned 11 this month (and not exceptionally gifted mathematically)
and
One who learnt last year and has never bothered "trying to remember all the numbers"
Both their partners were Intermediate players and there were a number of Open players in the section.

I'm not suggesting ONE result has any significance but it does raise the question:

Why start teaching beginners lots of numbers?
Why not just teach them the procedure and rules of the game and scoring and give them cards to bid and play and score?

If that appeals they will have fun from the outset  and if keen to get competitive they can gradually learn strategies (and numbers involved with that) so they can improve.
And if they are not keen to be competitive they can still continue to play (perhaps not very well) but still have fun.

And if they find "its not the sort of game for them" they will drop out straight away
With the normal lessons structure there are an awful lot who give up some time between half-way through the lessons and the first year playing in the club.

Any thoughts anyone?

 

Started by NICK WHITTEN on 30 Sep 2020 at 08:25PM

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  1. GILES HANCOCK12 Oct 2020 at 01:45PM

    totally agree Nick !

    Get them playing cards, get a feel for the whole game, just a rough idea of what is a weak/average/good hand.    AKQJ is average.

    Otherwise they get bombarded with "but you only had 8 points !" and get discouraged.

    - Giles

  2. Tel Hudson22 Mar 2021 at 01:08AM

    Many years ago at school we were told. You can open with 13 points and you can reply with 6. Enjoy!

    A couple of years ago, I went to formal lessons. Our teacher was a bit more specific. But as a 14 year old chucking cards around the table was the best way of getting started. Maybe there is a difference between a Bridge Society at school and formal lessons from an affiliated Club.

  3. NICK WHITTEN11 Apr 2021 at 05:41PM


    In the second quarter of the 20th century nearly everybody, young or old, played bridge by "chucking cards around the table"

    And a small number of those were keen enough to play better by learning to play duplicate at clubs.
    Nowadays that feeder for club membership appears to have disappeared

    Which means clubs need to rely on formal lessons to boost membership
    And a lot of them "get bombarded with "but you only had 8 points !" and get discouraged" as Giles says

    Thats why I believe it could be better to "just teach them the procedure and rules of the game and scoring and give them cards to bid and play and score"

  4. KAREN MARTELLETTI28 Apr 2021 at 09:58PM

    I suggest you try them on Mini Bridge.  Lesson 1 on the NZB material sort of does that, but perhaps not enough for some who just want to play some cards and not get bogged down in detail for a while.

  5. ALAN GRANT19 May 2021 at 02:28PM

    I think Karen's suggestion is a good one. I used to teach bridge at Wellington College, with only shortish lunchtimes available (about 50 minute). I found MiniBridge got them started playing with cards in their hands within 3 minutes and as a bonus they accidentally got to learn quite a bit about bridge (e.g. how to add up their high-card points, part of the rules of MiniBridge).

    Some very good players started there - including Liam Milne and Pieter Vanderpoel! And plenty more had heaps of fun and will probably want to learn bridge properly later in life.

  6. DENISE OHLEN28 Aug 2022 at 12:28PM

    Agree wholeheartdly. To much information. Need to teach basics and not go into too much depth. I think we all learnt more once we came out of lessons and started playing.

    We need to have a mid ground between Mini Bridge and the current lessons. I intend next year basing my lessons on the cheat sheet!

  7. DOUGLAS RUSSELL18 Jul 2023 at 10:03AM

    Much of the above reflects the thinking of the current Teaching and Learning Committee. Get' em playing as soon as possible! MiniBridge is an ideal intro and you can introduce play techniques (including opening leads and defensive methods), and even scoring, at the same time. For a good model along these lines, look at the NoFearBridge website.

  8. Ian McLaren24 Jan 2024 at 05:19PM

    I have recently rdiscovered Bridge and am now trying to teach my adult children. As background we all knew how to play "500" well so bidding, trumps, no trumps, taking tricks, counting trumps etc were well understood. 

    I initally tried using the cheat sheets for bidding but did not get into playing the cards quickly enough. Also the concept of a dummy was off-putting for some. I have now discovered "mini bridge" whicnh has revolutionised their interest and learning.  As well it introduces scoring which I had ignored as too compicated and added an extra icentive to our play. 

    To our family (and their friends) avoiding the complications of biding to start helped capture their interest in bridge. It allowed us to play cards from the get go, discuss our points openly, decide on the appropriate contract openly and score competitively. It is still early days but I hope to reintroduce the acol system using the NZ Bridge notes in the near future.

  9. Ian McLaren24 Jan 2024 at 05:26PM

    I have recently rediscovered Bridge and am now trying to teach my adult children. As background we all knew how to play "500" well so bidding, trumps, no trumps, taking tricks, counting trumps etc were well understood. 

    I initally tried using the NZ bridge cheat sheets for bidding but did not get into playing the cards quickly enough. Also the concept of a dummy was off-putting for some. I have now discovered "mini bridge" which has revolutionised their interest and learning.  As well, it introduces scoring which I had ignored as too compicated and this added an extra incentive to our play. 

    To our family (and their friends) avoiding the complications of bidding to start helped capture their interest in bridge. It allowed us to play cards from the get go, discuss our points openly, decide on the appropriate contract openly and score competitively. It is still early days but I hope to reintroduce the acol system using the NZ Bridge notes in the near future.

  10. DOUGLAS RUSSELL24 Jan 2024 at 05:29PM

    Exactly where we are intending to go when we look at the current NZ Bridge material.

    Douglas Russell

    NZ Bridge Teaching & Learning Committee.

     

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